The probation service does not seem fit for purpose? Is it simply an alternative 'punishment' to gaol, or is there a sense of trying to either otherwise humble an offender or, alternatively, give an opportunity for them to partially redeem their crime or offence and persevere through work? How does forcing the offender to do something the aggrieved is already doing equate to punishment bearing in mind that when the criminal has completed his 40 hours he just walks away. A breach of a community sentence can trigger an instant prison sentence. I think not) and everyone has something they would rather be doing. Why do those subscribing to the Daily Mail world view not recognise that prison does not work? But have you ever wondered just how effective community service is, and whether it is just a lenient punishment that achieves very little? If they don't think he's been up to the job they can say so on his form. I think it should be used more especially for a first offence, but I think the amount given should be increased. On the other hand, where we need work done- painting an old peoples' home for example, the residents don't trust the people near their homes as they think they are crooks!I personally think that community payback is a good idea. We will call you to confirm your appointment. Complain about this comment (Comment number 51). Second offence straight to prison. Does it not occur to anyone that this system of punishment creates a link in the mind between doing work which benefits the community, and punishment? There is a whole list a missed `jobs`. 46. As a volunteer I have witnessed two sessions of Community service. Punishment is a medieval way of looking at crime.2 wrongs equal a right ?How can you rehabilitate - someone who dosent want to be rehabilitated?You provide them with a worthwhile goal, a goal which occupies body and soul.How do you provide this goal --- ? i have recently completed some unpaid work and I can confirm everything what the programs shows it true. Give them new identities and send them to live in Australia away from all the nasty families of the murdered victims and media who hound their every waking moment and what for? Complain about this comment (Comment number 31). How does it compare to sending people to prison? It was renamed as the C ommunity Punishment and Rehabilitation Order (CPRO) in 2001. Complain about this comment (Comment number 80). Complain about this comment (Comment number 72). Does there need to be a revision of the Community Payback scheme rather than reverting back to prison sentences? Complain about this comment (Comment number 5). Pussy-footing around with trendy liberal ideals won't wash. The ITV programme, whilst important, is not evidence community service is a failure. Not only that, according to an Australian Institute of Criminology study, community service is far more economical than imprisonment, which is very expensive. We are hamstrung by idiotic notions of 'human rights' for people who clearly have no regard for others' human rights....A look at documentaries of other countries (including the US) show prisoners in cells with multiple prisoners, no TVs, no playstations, no pandering.Can anyone, please, tell me why we shouldn't have that here? There is,of course, no reason why community service shouldn't work in a disciplined society. They will always make things out to be the worst they can. If it means keeping people in prison for longer periods of time them that's what we'll have to do. Read more. Muliluvuori, M.L. No matter what, I can never get a comment published------------Well done you broke your duck! "Prison is terrible at reducing re-offending (if it was introduced now for the first time it would not last long, the re-offending rate would be all over the press).No matter what you may think of community service, and how much work is actually done, it is working for free (would you want to work for nothing? What makes people so sure that community sentencing works?Does it not occur to anyone that this system of punishment creates a link in the mind between doing work which benefits the community, and punishment? May be she should serve time in jail under an undercover name and find out for her self what happens to her sexually there. Well certainly in the three areas highlighted by this documentary it seems not to be working. Complain about this comment (Comment number 4). When a crime is particularly serious, prison will rightly be regarded by the courts as the only viable sentencing option. Which of course should be a civil debt in the first place,you wouldn't be sent to jail for not paying your Sky subscription! Complain about this comment (Comment number 10). What are your memories of Sir Henry Cooper? While you will be able to view the content of this page in your current browser, you will not be able to get the full visual experience. Having seen the reaction on TV by some individual representing legislative law, my initial thought was, what a farce. What could be better is the supervision of these people. A chance to kick back with friends or colleagues, enjoy a tea or a smoke (legal or otherwise) and discuss plans for the weekend (legal or otherwise). I think community service is a good punishment. How does that work or contribute to creating a work ethic among those punished through forced 'work'? If it was up to me it would be far more of a punishment but one has to remember their human rights. However, for offenders in work, we should consider that imprisonment would mean them losing their job. Likewise I don't know what would be if these low lifes were birched instead. Off with their heads!------------Imagine if it had been a Skinny Late!Most of the time custodial and non custodial punishments don't work.Non custodial punishments combined with some form of victim confrontation do seem to have a more positive outcome and also benefit from being far cheaper than custodial sentencing.Worth remembering that the biggest reason for female imprisonment in the UK is for non payment of a fine relating to not having a TV licence. Complain about this comment (Comment number 20), Complain about this comment (Comment number 21). All the evidence I've seen suggests that neither requirement is being met. She wants the current system to be radically changed. The number of CSOs has been decreasing since 1994, and the prevalence of good behaviour bonds has been rising. Funny, lol! Is this news? Complain about this comment (Comment number 18), The penal system is a joke, not just community service.Prisoners rights bill??? And if an offence is committed during a CSO, the fact that the offender was on CSO at the time will be treated as an aggravating factor – which could lead to a harsher sentence than would normally be imposed. The guy should take up acting. When considering punishment options you are already dealing with the symptoms not the causes. One must invest one's self esteem in that which is perceived as positive to one's self - but you would have people make a negative association with work as a form of punishment!!!! Who should be responsible for keeping us healthy? What I do say is that we have got ourselves into a mess on a number of fronts such as a lack of secure prison places, the introduction of Human Rights legislation parts of which have been demonstrated to be counter productive, the decline of personal and collective responsibility and many many more issues. Punishment without walls: Community service sentences in New York City. The reason why community service doesn't work is because, the people who are meant to inforce community service either don't have any powers to force these people, or just think the hassle just isn't worth the effort on council staff wages.The community service should be taken over by the CSO (community support officer) devision of the police, so that when convicted people are sentenced to do community service, they actually do it or face stiffer punishment from people who inforce the law. See what she thinks of the penal system and society's pecking order. Complain about this comment (Comment number 66). Community sentences if you are under 18 Overview You may get a community sentence if you’re convicted of a crime by a court but are not sent to prison. Watched to program, pretty much what we already knew. That should be scrapped, and prisons should be like in the Victorian era.That would prove to be a deterrent. https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles/non-custodial-sentences Complain about this comment (Comment number 32). We did complete some good work for the community but much more could be done. I have a friend who was in Channings Wood prison and who used to 'shop' from an Argos catalogue from his cell. Why community service is no sort of punishment RUSSELL Brand is not normally a man to whom one would look or wisdom but his reaction to his sentence, in America, to … Like any attempt at making a lifestyle change, the individual involved has to really, really WANT to make that change.Attending community service in a spirit of getting it done, getting it over with, isn't going to make the offender any different: but those who grasp the opportunity of structured support to turn their life around, to not even want to do whatever their offence was again, have a good chance of making that change happen.It's the same with gaol. Justice Secretary, Ken Clarke MP QC., now responsible, should find the stats and publish what 'Community Service' has achieved over the last five years perhaps?If Ken Clarke's only brief is to cut prison admissions - then that will certainly be a distorted stat for the next election?In conclusion, if the Justice Secretary Ken Clarke wishes to maintain credibility - then he must explain and provide clear evidence of his current views of reducing prision admissions, plus, his evidence that offender community service works for the offenders and their victims? Complain about this comment (Comment number 23). WHAT IS THAT ALL ABOUT???????? Should vocational courses in England change? Post 53..So why does USA with a population 5 times that of the UK have 35 times as many people in prison?Because they are not so soft on crime.Who cares what the % is.Just lock them up for longer or for good, criminals would soon get the message.Because re-offending is so high, doesn't that tell you something.How many more committees do we need looking into this, its not rocket science. Nothing will ever change because the criminals rights seem to be more important than the victim. Muliluvuori, M. L. (2001). They should be assigned tasks that normally get paid for with public money such as grafitti removal.So no, it didnt seem to be working. Holes in roads, tree pruning, farm land dry walls, removing junk from small rivers and streams. In fact, there is evidence to suggest that community service is more effective than another kind of punishment, according to one 2013 Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research study (BOCSAR). They can also be given as punishment for unpaid fines. The second was tree planting where some of the men worked hard whilst others just leant on their spades.So my view of it is somewhat jaundiced and I remain to be convinced that as a punishment it is a soft option which is not properly enforced. Its place is now taken by the It does reduce re-offending and has a better success rate than the more expensive prison. Complain about this comment (Comment number 86). Furthermore, why must people howl for blood? (Not the party, I'm not that hard). Complain about this comment (Comment number 92). Free Work & ExploitationIn the days of Slavery and Apartheid field workers smoked weed. Complain about this comment (Comment number 3). For the so called lesser crimes that people like to call them, we had how own deterrent.They were called parents, a mum and a dad, or a mother and father.Now more and more the rest of society as to do that job.As a child and young man and in fact at any time, I've never found it a problem showing respect to others.I was punished as a child when I did wrong, once I'd served my punishment it was forgotten and we all moved on.I get fed up today with people always making excuses for people who do wrong.Nearly all of them know what they are doing, for that reason I think the punishment should be a deterrent, which it clearly isn't at the moment.We have clearly been soft on crime for more years than I care to remember. Thank you for your comments. Mmmmm! If that means they lose some of the perks of being in jail than that's what we'll have to do. Complain about this comment (Comment number 41). For a start its alot less cushy than prison. A series of public opinion polls, commissioned by the Prison (suitably equipped). ", Complain about this comment (Comment number 27). My friend recently recieved 150hours of community service for dangerous driving (tray sliding his car around an empty car park on cctv) he's not the smartest of people I must admit. However, it can be difficult to get the people to 'do' jobs they do not like. He's serving his community service in a town charity shop, from what I understand how he performs is completly up to the person signing his community service forms. Only an idiot would think that.It's not about crime rates in other countries, it's about punishment in this one.Why shouldn't prisons be a more basic punishment? Complain about this comment (Comment number 12), Community service works as well as a chocolate tea pot, Complain about this comment (Comment number 13). We need to get these "community criminals" into a goolag environment where they are excommunicated and forced into labour. Under the Crimes (Sentencing and Procedure) Act, they can involve up to 500 hours of work in the community. Undercover footage of criminals drinking tea and smoking illegal drugs has led to criticism that community service is like a "holiday camp". You can stay up to date with Have Your Say via these feeds. The Director of BOSCAR, Don Weatherburn, believes that although the difference in reoffending rates may be small, the difference is probably larger than what the figures suggest. I would say it is farily obvious, from the report on the BBC website and comments made by those 'sentenced' to community service, it is a complete failure.The sentence seems to be more of a pass time to most of those charged. There should be a bank of people on community service where say an elderly person can call and get someone round to fix the garden for example. It is evidence current processes are deeply flawed.What does a community service order seek to achieve? Complain about this comment (Comment number 26), "Does community service work? It does not surprise me at the least. No human should get something for FREE, this will make the Free valueless, this person will then think that the society owes him/her free stuff, it makes them lazy, makes them less motivated, makes them sit in the front of the TV and brook. Many argued that offences punishable with community service do not really ample together. Just because they murdered someone in cold blood?? AndyC555 wrote:A look at documentaries of other countries (including the US) show prisoners in cells with multiple prisoners, no TVs, no playstations, no pandering.Can anyone, please, tell me why we shouldn't have that here?Probably because their crime rates are more often than not several times higher than ours.The murder rate per capita is three times higher in the United States than in the UK and their rape rate per capita is double that of the UK.Only an idiot would want to copy the United States justice system, unless of course you want to increase our serious crime rates to bring them into line with theirs.Regardless of the lies and propaganda spread by our tabloids the United Kingdom remains one of the safest places to live and you are far less likely to be the victim of crime here than in most other countries. Complain about this comment (Comment number 76). In fact, any breach can lead to the CSO being revoked and a sentence of imprisonment being imposed. Dec 11, 2014 - A study suggests that Community Service Orders are more effective for reducing reoffending. I'd also like to see a Plan B type community order (short of gaol) seeking to punish anyone who fails to deliver appropriately under Plan A. Background. This is the most important aim of punishment for a Christian. This page has been archived and is no longer updated. I bet they could make a programme about how bad fluffy pillows are if they tried.As to the question does community service work - well like most things, it does for some and it doesn't for others. ?Perhaps thats the wrong question - perhaps the right question is how do you change society enough to try some really different things - things that perhaps have been done in the past but have been abandoned for various reasons -Perhaps as long as the press provides knee jerk responses change will not be possible. I suppose that the reason is that servers have to be overseen while they do their work. Unfortunately any activity associated with the do-gooders in social services or the probation services is doomed to failure. It is not simply a question of 'punishment' but a matter of rehabilitation and integration of criminals into society. Outrageous. We need to better define what warrants a prison term and what is better dealt by some other method. … This is because community service is not harsh enough to educate and rehabilitate the offenders compare to imprisonment. He made many life long friends and learnt a trade. It can include one or more of 13 requirements on an offender (below), with the aim of changing offenders’ behaviour so they don’t commit crime in the future, making amends to A look at documentaries of other countries (including the US) show prisoners in cells with multiple prisoners, no TVs, no playstations, no pandering.Can anyone, please, tell me why we shouldn't have that here?Because Cherie Blair, Shami Chakrabati and their ilk wouldn't allow it !!! Does community service work? This community service scam is the thin end of the wedge. I think community service is a very good idea as long as it is correctly enforced. Complain about this comment (Comment number 40). Perhaps we should try running CS with ex Forces personnel in charge - lets see if that works.Chin chinBoris, Complain about this comment (Comment number 82). 59. Complain about this comment (Comment number 62). The investigation comes as Justice Secretary Kenneth Clarke puts forward plans for more offenders to do community service instead of short prison sentences. Complain about this comment (Comment number 8). * (The official name has changed a number of times – you may also have heard of ‘community payback’ or ‘unpaid work in the community’, but most people still think of it as community service, … Their productivity is several times greater than most of the council operatives who I see lounging against their trucks with their hands in their pockets and who clear off home at 3pm sharp every day except Friday, when lunchtime signals the end of their "working" week. At 9:14pm on 02 Sep 2010, Alan wrote:I would like to see young criminals sent to a boot camp, ran by the Army and taught disipline and team work"Against their human rights.-------No just an exceptionally expensive waste of time and resources.It's discipline by the way! Only it hasn't, of course - look at reoffending rates.How about bringing back the stocks? All this user's posts have been removed.Why? Anything less is simply creating problems for the future.----------So why does USA with a population 5 times that of the UK have 35 times as many people in prison? Currently, in order to be eligible for a CSO you must have committed a crime that is punishable by a prison sentence, and you must not be considered a risk to the community. Why should drinking tea and smoking pot mean that community service is too easy? Complain about this comment (Comment number 81), Re post 78Chris - you're spot on. Also keep them under guard at all times. Off with their heads! It seems to work quite well in this area. As an ex-SNCO from the Armed Forces I would have no qualms about managing a team of unruly youths on a community project. As someone who was once required to serve CS (back in my younger, more impressionable years), I personally found it helped keep me to see the benefits of doing something constructive in life.So those people in the documentary were drinking tea and smoking a bit of ganja, everyone is entitled to a tea break at some point, they're not slaves, they're not really committing any major crime either. "A year-long study of the first cohort that went through the programme, which was founded in Massachusetts in 1991, found that only 19% had reoffended compared with 42% in a control group.". Complain about this comment (Comment number 74). By all means get prisoners into a routine doing a job but under no circumstances let them home at night. Clearing litter or sweeping roads is not serving people; it's serving communities. Anything else ought to be subject to the usual sanctions, which presumably must be available to administrators of the project.Lets treat this report as an incentive to manage the scheme better,rather than revert to a 'knee jerk' reaction, sending more offenders into our overcrowded prisons,& running the real risk of them being hardened into worse criminals by virtue of what they've experienced within them. It should work, but it was never going to work as implemented by the previous Labour government. Complain about this comment (Comment number 50). Complain about this comment (Comment number 64). Champions of community punishment suggest they are also more effective, pointing to reoffending rates of around 36%, compared to 60% among those released from short sentences. Reforms Suggested. Other countries resolve prison overcrowding by secondment to commercial contractors owned by their government to do hard labour without pay but may be compensated only at the end of his/her term.My point is that none of these countries use Community Service as a means of punishment because it doesn't work, they simply abscond to carry on their unlawful activities. Now with Ken Clark forming policy I am even more worried what will happen next. At 4:56pm on 02 Sep 2010, virtualsilverlady wrote:////34 The Ghosts of John GaltIt seems you are against any attempt to save the taxpayers £27000 per year per prisoner by finding other methods of punishment apart from keeping them locked up.Some do see work as a form of punishment hence so many trying to avoid it and none of us live to work we only work to live.////How do you possibly arrive at such a conclusion from any comment I have ever made on any subject?? Is community service too easy? It could work very well - if OUR Councils reconsidered their PC biassed atitudes and did what their local Tax-payers have a right to expect. Should there be wider use of community service rather than using short prison sentences? Compulsory contribution to socially responsible work is just one option. You obviously have access to a computer, you have a brain, and must have seen the evidence that harsher regimes do NOT deter. Have to say, if your 'think' harder you may find yourself agreeing with everything I have to say! Many offenders given a community sentence must also abide by strict curfews or … But short term, better discipline / control of community service seems necessary. Im my job i work regularly with 'community payback' when we need painting/cleaning/digging/ weeding jobs done on estates. About Ugur Nedim Ugur Nedim is an Accredited Specialist Criminal Lawyer and Principal at Sydney Criminal Lawyers®, Sydney’s Leading Firm of Criminal & Traffic Defence Lawyers. 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